Showing posts with label pre-paid. Show all posts
Showing posts with label pre-paid. Show all posts

Friday, November 07, 2014

Saint Coemgen Joins the Banking Issue

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Saint Coemgen states:The reason why only a drivers license was considered valid ID and not the passport is because they wanted to verify that you actually lived in the US State where you claimed having an address. Passports do not have address information so would not work. And for the same reason, even if you had a Hungarian drivers license, that would not have worked either. Long term US expats have the most difficulty when they keep ties to the US, especially in banking. The simple truth is the US Banking system is not international friendly for private bank holders that live abroad. If I want to do an international money transfer to a US bank account from my European account, I can go on-line and make the transfer with a web browser. Some US banks may allow such e-banking also, but my US bank never did (still doesn't today for personal accounts). If I wanted to do an international transfer of money from my US bank account I always had to go into the bank and fill out a paper form and sign it.

BN Follow-up: We have successfully had online banking with Bank of America since we left the US in 2001. They even send our paper statements to our Hungarian address. However, we did have an issue as Saint Coemgen stated regarding transferring money here. When we wanted to buy our apartment, they did insist we would have to come into a branch office to sign the paperwork. After a number of calls explaining why that would not work, they agreed to allow us to have the papers notarized at the US Embassy. That solved the problem. Since then, we have transferred money for a second apartment without a hassle.

Unfortunately, we no longer have a driver's license in any of the US states. We don't have one in any country of the world, either.
Back to the original issue, I thought the Plan B would be to use credit cards as ATM cards if emergency cash was needed because of ATM card theft. This is what I discovered.

If was ironic, but I called Bank of America to see if they had a pre-paid debit card. The rationale being  we have accounts there. The auto response telephone system asked for my ATM card number and stated “If you don’t have it handy, say ‘Wait’.” I did say "Wait" and went to look for it. I have not used it for about a year and I could not find it where I keep all the other cards I don’t want filling my wallet.

When I returned to the phone, there was an live agent on the line saying "Hello, hello" and I told her what happened. She asked if I needed my card canceled and have a new card issued. I said it seems that I did, even if this was not the reason for calling.

We never accomplished anything with the pre-paid card, but when I went back to the bedroom where I had spread all the cards over the bed, I spotted the B of A ATM card. In my memory it was still blue, but the latest version is red. Too late! She told me the card would be voided immediately if I said I needed a replacement.

I called Chase Visa to see what would happen IF I had a $500 credit on the card, but then took a cash advance. My thinking was to circumvent the system, but they had another brick wall in place. Even if I had OVERpaid the credit card by $500, when I took out cash from an ATM, there is a 3% or $10 fee, whichever is higher AND they assess interest at 19.28% for the next TWO billing cycles. I was furious!!

We have two accounts here in Hungary. One is strictly for the business and the other is our travel account. It is the travel account card that I am afraid to lose, thus wanting a back-up to have on hand. B of A charges $5 for every ATM withdrawal, so I was hoping to save some money. The other cards charge $2-3. My other concern is that if I had to report my Hungarian card lost or stolen, it would be impossible. Each time we go in the bank they have to get the one and only employee, who speaks English, away from whatever he does in the back area to come to help us. Calling the bank from abroad would be hell.

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Wednesday, November 05, 2014

No We Don't Want Your Ex-Pat Money

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The trials and tribulations for those of us, who are not living in our home country, never seem to end. In preparation for going to Ecuador for 3 months stating January, I have been looking for a prepaid debit card. The last time we were in Ecuador, my credit card was stolen on our second day in the country, in Quito, while riding on a bus. It was not a great loss, primarily because only one card is in my pocket at any time. The rest are locked up. This does cause some inconvenience at times by having to return to the hotel for cash, the ATM card, or to call the credit card company to report the card stolen.

This last time, it was a Capitol One MasterCard stolen, which was particularly inconvenient as they would not send me a new card to Ecuador. As it turned out they wouldn’t send it to Hungary either. They would send the replacement to the US address associated with the card. This is my best friend, Daphnee’s home. If it were really needed, Daphnee would in turn need to FedEx it to me, but by the time it reached her, I would have been on my way back to Europe.

My major concern is losing our bank ATM card regardless of loss or theft. This would be a greater inconvenience with many businesses being on the cash only system throughout Ecuador, including a number of accommodations. Hence, a pre-paid credit card would have been an insurance measure for access to an ATM.

Sunday, I looked at our California bank’s site to see if they had any pre-paid credit card offering before moving on to each of my credit cards. I did a pass on American Express, knowing that there are usually limited businesses in Ecuador that accept AMEX. From our last trip, I knew the number of ATM machines tied to it would be negligible.

Four hours of researching the offerings of Visa and MasterCard sites, reading the fine print on over a dozen of those recommended by the parent credit card companies, I settled on 2 choices: Akimbo and Card.com.  

First I applied for Card.com solely because they allowed a wide range of patterns for their card. This helps to identify it from the others, especially when in a rush to leave for the day out. It took a minute to fill out their form for instant approval, but I was denied. They could not verify my information. I tried a second time with the same results. In hindsight, this was for the best. Having tried to find consumer reviews for the company, all reviews were mommy bloggers who were gushing over the custom card they received. It looked like padded endorsements. They are slow to respond to Twitter questions and their phone number is only a recording that accepts messages. No human interaction!

Akimbo replied to an e-mail stating an account was possible if I had a US address and a US bank; there wouldn’t be a problem. I applied and received an e-mail explaining their need for a driver’s license and a recent bank statement. I sent a copy of my passport as I do not have a driver’s license in any country, but I did include the statement from Bank of America in CA.

Today, I received a denial e-mail. No driver’s license, no proper ID, no card.

Plan B: Call all of my current credit card companies and ask if I have a pin code set up on the card. If not, establish one. Then ask what the charge would be for an ATM withdrawal on the card if there were a credit on the account to cover it. This may be my own creation of a pre-paid card giving me ATM access if needed. It is also possible to transfer money to these cards as needed via online banking, thus keeping us from tying up money on a pre-paid card that may not be needed. A number of these cards have monthly fees in addition to other charges.

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